User talk:Kdarrow

Please leave me messages below. Happy trails!

Den Residential
That patch is not related to Killap, it's an official Fallout 2 patch, you can see right here. Den Residential should be included on the wiki. Why did you archive your talkpage? It doesn't have 40 post or 32 kb of talkpage content. Jspoel  11:18, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Broken file links
What does it matter, me or your bot removing those broken file links. They show up in a maintenance category, and their purpose it to be as empty as possible. Just make your bot remove them then. Jspoel  11:34, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That no editing userpage other than yourself policy should be altered in my opinion. If it's in a maintenance category admins should be allowed to solve it. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 12:02, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Placeholder
Can you remove the videos and images from pages that have placeholder images with your bot? See https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:Placeholder. That removes them from the wanted images and uncategorized images list. Sometimes the pages have two types, video and image. (User:119.160.66.210/FALLOUT 4 CONSOLE COMMAND LIST). Jspoel  15:12, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Deleting
I would like a link to whatever new rules that went up since I stopped being active. I wish to learn why my personal pages are being deleted.--Ant2242 (talk) 02:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

I would like a specific link. As I seem to be missing the exact policy. As for the pages being "Duplicates" they are not. If you re-add them you can see. Especially the pages about Curie III and Gerard.--Ant2242 (talk) 03:41, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Changes: User:Daddyattitude/Sandbox
1st, thank you for your time. Next: I have no idea about the sandbox link you changed on my sandbox. This was something I did about 2 years ago and do not recall what I was attempting at the time. If the link broke, it is due to the site changing locations from old to new location(s) and I wasn't aware of it. As for create a page? I was not attempting to create a page. 

BOS hierarchy
In the Lyons model on the BOS hierarchy page, it splits into two branches when really they should connected under elder (the head scribe is subordinate to them). For me, scratching a chalkboard would be a suitable alternative to trying to tackle that tree format, so I hope you can do it, thanks. Branebriar1930 (talk) 11:39, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Branebriar1930 (talk) 12:54, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Rights
Hey, I wanted to reach out to clarify. A few people have approached me asking about my resignation. I have not resigned, so if you wouldn't mind undoing that, I'd appreciate it. As you suggested, if/when I resign, I'll leave a talk page message about it to avoid any confusion or drama. Thanks!  intrepid359 10/21/21 [2:03pm]

Inactive Staff Rights
Greetings,

I came by to ask why you recently revoked the rights from dozens of inactive staff members without leaving a talk page notice. It has come to my attention that the current reigning policy is that staff members cannot lose their rights solely due to inactivity without a vote. A history of the inactivity policy follows, in case it might be of importance to you: From what I can tell, that is the latest vote on the matter, meaning that current Nukapedia policy is that inactive staff members can only lose their rights through a motion of no confidence or vote of reconfirmation. Note that I personally did not read through them further than briefly skimming the results, they were simply provided to me by another user. You are of course free to draft a mass reconfirmation forum for all the users you believe are considered "inactive," which could simply be a brief introduction stating the purpose of the vote and how they are all for the same reason: inactivity. Then just go down the line adding sections with yes/no votes for every staff member. At the same time, though, you should leave a talk page message on all those staff members whose rights are up for reconfirmation out of courtesy.
 * Discussion from Oct. 2012
 * Vote from Oct. 2012 following prior discussion. Implemented policy revoking rights after inactivity period
 * Edit from Oct. 2012 codifying prior vote.
 * Discussion from Apr. 2014
 * Vote from May 2014 following prior discussion. Repealed inactivity policy instated earlier
 * Edit from May 2014 officially repealing policy

For what it's worth, I agree with the practice of revoking rights after a period of inactivity, but I think an official forum discussion and vote must be held before an active bureaucrat can remove rights without community input in the form of a reconfirmation vote. The biggest issue would be determining the best way to define "inactive." Regardless of whether such a policy is reinstated, the inactive staff members should always receive a talk page message before they lose their rights, notifying them of the possibility of rights removal and allowing them to return to activity or have their own say in the matter. - Sigmund Fraud Talk   Contributions  02:04, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Comment
Thank you for the welcome, cheers 02:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Re: Is it just you?
Hello, just responding to your message over on my TP. I appreciate the concern, but I'm sorry, I'm confused. Which part has you worried? It must be the quote I put in there from Neil. I was just adding a quite anti-predictive quote from the aforementioned character that pertains to some things I've noticed in the ways of life. However, I feel your concern is not with my Fallout: New Vegas quote addition on my profile, so let me give you a quandary to ponder. Over-thinking and over-analyzing separates the body from the mind. A great example of this would be watching someone closely (for whatever reason, even getting others as eyes as well) without any real proof of wrongdoing or malice. Sort of like walking into a very nice store with a thousand dollars in your wallet to spend on anything you want, but the manager sees you and doesn't like how your hat is turned to one side or the fact that you wear one color over wearing another (blah blah blah, so on). So, they have security follow you wherever you go. And you know what the worst part is? This store has the only thing you want for miles around (a blank slate, a special paper to write on, an digital handheld encyclopedia that you can help advance knowledge on). But, for sake of conflict (and pride on the manager's part), you leave. You know that all the problems that could come from simply being to close to the thing you want, so you depart. But back to the "overthinking and overanalyzing part" of this public form of "messaging" we call TPs. As you can see, I have CLEARLY overthought and, very much so, overanalyzed the situation that started as as a simple observation of mere quotes of things I have said on other "public gathering spaces". The reason I bring this all up is because based off of my own observations. And to me, it seems you may have over-thought, and very much so, over-analyzed small snippet quotes of detailing MY disgust for most of the Nukapedia + The Vault administration. But that's not what we are talking about. We were talking about your worry of my well-being. Well, Kdarrow, I am quite well. Thank you for your concern. How considerate.

Anyways, sorry to keep your eyes open with this message or keep you away from very important wiki matters. I hope all is well. I personally see no need for a response to this message of mine or to have any other need to contact me unless it concerns something I have done regarding my edits, my discussions, or my presence in the NP Discord since the creation of this account.

Sincerely, Cole.

P.S. - Belated Congrats on the "Overseer" vanity title. I didn't know vanity titles were a thing now. A word of caution, strictly from a Fallout point of view. Overseers never seem to last too long. Look at Jacoren or the Overseers of Vault 11 (such as Kate Stone). Heck, Vault 22 lost six consecutive overseers to a single man.

That's why no one will remember your name... 04:48, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Restore
Isn't needed. I'm aware that you can't trust the unused files page anymore, but I've checked all of these files if they were actually used on a page by looking at their filename and make a null-edit on the page they are on. That restores the use on the unused files special page. When the name wasn't clear I went to the history of when it was uploaded by the user and close to that edit is mostly the page they placed it on. So all is covered. I still like to do some maintenance and as far as I can see there aren't related wanted images so all must be good. Jspoel  10:58, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Icons
Hey there, although I appreciate the reach out, I am not happy with the way this matter has been approached. If my changes caused issues then yes they should have been reverted, but with a reason given so I knew why they reverted. Instead rollback was used, which really should only be used in the case of vandalism, but I can see why it may have been done. The code changes I made were a refactoring of the existing code I wrote for the module and I also rigorously tested them, so I'm sure you can understand why being told to speak to your expert about my original and new code would be a little irritating. The only thing I can envision being broken is the class addition made by eckserah, which was completely undocumented as to its use and application and there were no obvious classes in the css as to what would be set. Even so I compensated for this by handling it in the code so that the used classes can be configured within the module and set on a case by case basis for each icon, so no css changes are required to make it work, just setting the classes in the code and against the icons.

Ultimately the change was made to make the code and the icons easier to manage by having a single table for all icon parameters and store them away from the code base to make it manageable. The changes also future proofed the base code by making it easier to add parameters to icons and compensating for human errors. Feel free to review it yourselves and if you like it roll it back (I left adequate comments in the code before the reversion so what was changed and why is very clear). If you don't que sera sera. Sakaratte - Talk to the catmin 20:50, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Images
Fair enough, I didn't even knew such technical problems were possible. I apologize for the comment and hope you can sort the problems out. Cheers Xporc (talk) 08:25, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Re: Vault Academy
Hi, yes i'm still interested in the vault academy mentorship.IcyMystic (talk) 08:40, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

RE: Removal of Rights (CC)
I'd like to clarify about the message that was left on my talk page. I do not have an intent to be inactive, but its in fact the very opposite. There's a reason why I have been slowly making return to the discord over the last few months. It was inaccurate to say that I changed my statement, because my intent had always been to stay on, just not return to moderation in its full capacity immediately. The messages you added as proof is also misleading without further context on what was mentioned before and after.

As such, I'd like to request the return of rights. It is also unfair that other inactive at the moment did not get their staff rights removed immediately, and such treatment should be the same for all inactive staff, even more so since I have been active in SD over the last few weeks, beginning my return to Nukapedia. Your removal of my rights are unjust, and further corrective actions should be taken in this case. 11:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, this is just a CC that was intended for Dyre, however, I'd like to state the following reasons for why im requesting my rights back, as im aware you and Dyre have deliberated over this as well. Also please do not my interest in the Vault Academy yeah? LogoMakr_14Z3y6.png 11:20, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Mayor of Boston
Heya, been a while! Hope everything's been cool on your end.

Not sure if you're the right person to ask, just had a quick editing question about the Mayor of Boston page. I noticed that page got moved from "Hildenbrand" 2 years back b/c the name was unsourced. I actually found a source a while back and I think AYF(?) put it up a bit after (it's the quote on the Copley Station page.) I just don't have perms to move the Mayor article back to Hildenbrand (guess it would overwrite a redirect or something? Not sure.) Just wanted to ask if you or an admin could do it instead, or if you think it's even necessary to make that move at all?

Thanks either way and see you around! FDSMDP (talk) 02:22, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Sheriff's duster
Kate, I restored FNV Sheriff's duster Primm.jpg. It is one of those "unused files" that are actually used. I sent a ticket about this problem to Fandom, and they have promised to take a look at it. I sent them this file and a few nuclear weapons gallery images as an example, so best to leave those alone. If I receive progress I'll let you know. Jspoel  17:21, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Appreciate
Hello dear! Thank you very much for your attention and affection. Happy Halloween (late hahaha). Fandom is a hoobie to me, I like to edit and spend a few hours in game when I'm not working. Thanks again. MarksPolh 19:22, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Gameplay characteristics
Why is this flooding the RC with changes? When was the community discussion for this? Great Mara (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Flooding/crowding, call it what you want but this is the end result. This wasn't discussed wiki-side or put to a vote and is also better left to bot work so it can be filtered out in the RC activity feed. Great Mara (talk) 22:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Form id
You're removing all form id's on creature pages with that new code. It works on formid instead of form id. Now the codes are gone. Jspoel  16:08, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Many Thanks
Thank you so very much for understanding as well as for your help. It's much appreciated. TheChonChon 4:47, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Reply
Hey, there,

yeah, there isn't much for me left to do around here. Maybe someday I'll take on Fallout 4, but when I cannot say. Until then, you can remove my user rights. ☢ Energy X ☣ 11:56, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kate!
Hey Kate! As my TVA talk age message to you, I decided to give you a gift! Hope you enjoy it!

Reinstatement of Chat Moderator Rights
Hi Kate, I'd like to return to being a Chat Moderator. Please do return my chat moderator rights. i've also proven my activity over the last few days, and have not officially resigned from my post, hence I'm requesting to be reinstated. If there are further questions please leave me a talk page message or ping me on discord, thanks! 03:35, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Disc mods
Yes I am aware of the whole incident necessitating the emergency discussion mods, however on a day-to-day basis, I still see Sax, Dyre, and the Appalachian all the time, being very active and doing a fine job. Unless those three are under too much strain, and intend to be less active on discussions, I believe they are enough.

Goes without saying this is just my opinion, and I will obviously rethink it should discussions be severely disrupted further.Branebriar1930 (talk) 11:19, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

"New"(-ish) default colors for the website
Hiya Kate ! It's been a while since I've been around. Last time I was here, the old style colors and layout were being used. Question on the colors ... is there any way for me to change the default that is being used whenever I am logged in ? I am unable to read the text on almost everything that has a "beige" background, especially in tables, because it's white text on an almost white background. For example, Fallout: New Vegas armor and clothing, I cannot read the text for the top 3 - Ambassador Crocker's suit, Arcade's lab coat, and Benny's suit. Heck, even when I'm in visual editor instead of source editor, I can't see the tools across the top (like bold italic etc). I have gone into preferences and tried changing the appearance theme Light, Dark, or Defer to Wiki Preset, and that didn't work. Hope you've been well ! Thanks in advance for your help. - AngelaStuff2 (talk) 16:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

edit: Bureaucrat, wow congrats !!! But why does it show only 920 edits for you ?

Block
Hey, if you actually look at the block list, Bleep made an error in January and claimed it was my "fourth ban", when if you check the logs, it was only my first. Bleep has a personal thing against me since Siggy stood up for me in chat against him, and is actually the reason I went on so many hiatuses from editing. The fact you continue to trust a mod who is *known* to hold grudges is simply a symptom of your current mod team. "Chronic toxic and abusive behaviour" when I could literally say the same thing about Bleep. I return after a year and immediately get treated like crap by him for asking a simple question. I never receive an apology, despite everyone admitting that Bleep was in the wrong. I know you'll just extend my ban wiki-side for "being an ass" but I just want to point out no matter what I was or was not doing in SNM, you can't ban me for it. And Kate, this little power trip of yours won't last forever. You can't just ban and block and hope everything will work out fine, because it won't. Banning people from the disc is going to make them not want to edit the Wiki, and the saddest thing is that you're going to lose a lot of talented editors if you continue to do this. The fact people in the server didn't even know what archiving *was*, let alone how to do it tells me that it won't be long before you need people like me, and Siggy and Leon back. Laat, yeah fair enough, but there are people that have poured hard work and love into this Wiki simply to be banned or treated like crap by your modding team. And sure, you'll get new people, but it won't be the same Kate. I hope you wake up and see that soon, before the community for Nukapedia simply becomes you and your sycophants. This isn't a plea to be unbanned, or begging you not to ban me wiki side, but what I'm hoping is a wakeup call. Kittybright (talk) 00:23, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Words you hate dearly
It has come to my attention that on discord, you sent me the 3 rugged words you hate. As Such i will now remember this forever and spread these words. These implied words will always be in my reliable memory. So forget assuming i forgot these words as i will always remember them, for my rugged and venerable brain can handle way more than it. And as such i will always remind you of this unfortunate event, so that your brain may remember the implied repercussions to this action.  JustDoggo2    'I swear to god if I don't get my damn mugs! IM GOING TO EXPLODE ' 01:01, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Unused files
I asked Fandom a few days ago on the progress on this problem. He said, stay calm, it's still on the list of our bug fixers. We now just have to wait for them to fix it, can't say how long. Jspoel  16:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Re:Rollback
Your "format fixes" ripped through source material and anything remotely containing "rape" in the word (ie, skyscraper) making changes that were neither format fixes nor changes that should have been made in the first place. Why is a bot making the same asinine changes as the globally banned user from earlier? Great Mara (talk) 00:05, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This is getting a bit out of hand, don't you think? This is a mature game, and players know what they're getting into. There's bound to be some foul language words in it, always in context, like with Jeff Dougal. Furthermore, I'd just leave the source texts as they are. Has this properly been discussed in the the ballpit? Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 11:27, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Discord Ban
Why was I immediately banned from the Discord earlier for "insulting other users/harassment"? Literally all I did after rejoining following my previous ban (which lasted nearly a week longer than it was supposed to) was post a meme about STALKER (since that is what people were discussing at the time), a stupid joke about a roar someone heard being a result of me eating burritos for supper, and a video of yet another STALKER meme. Literally nothing that I said was insulting or harassment. I would like my ban to be swiftly overturned and expunged from any records, considering there was absolutely no reason for it to occur in the first place. - Sigmund Fraud Talk   Contributions  01:38, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks, that was a really nice comment. Do please know that you are also very appreciated. And you take so much more responsibility on than I do. Thanks for all YOU do! Spikezarkspike (talk) 15:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you so much for your wonderful gift and your kind words. I really do appreciate it a lot! The Appalachian 17:21, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Re: Image
Hi! Thanks for the kind words. The image that I had uploaded was a screencap from the Fallout 76 Expeditions The Pitt Trailer. There is a brief second at 0:36 in the trailer that shows the exact scene with the building and street in ruins before the camera pans to show the Welcome to The Pitt sign. I had originally intended to add the image to the page Expeditions: The Pitt, but never actually got around to doing it. Thanks- ANZCANUS

Thanks again and I have added the image to the page on the upcoming Pitt Expedition. Interestingly, I do actually live in Pittsburgh in real life so I find it fascinating that the developers chose Pittsburgh as their first location for an "Expedition".- ANZCANUS, Pitt Resident

Formal Resignation
Hey Kate, please take this as my formal resignation. I wish I could say I had a good time here, but the longer I stuck around, the longer constant drama with SNM, the dataminers, and even between our own staff got to me. I really hope you can take away someting from our last interaction on Discord, as I very much felt that you took my criticism as a personal attack when it was directed at all rights holders of Nukapedia. There is too much drama there, and everyone needs to work on putting a foot down on it. I do truly hope that is something that will be taken to heart, otherwise Nukapedia will fail - it's already notorious fot that. Don't let it keep being notorious.

~   A better future, underground! 18:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Race
Hi, I was having some concerns about the Race parameter. This wiki is really inconsistent and some infoboxes list a character's race while most do not. I think we should just get rid of all "Caucasian/Asian/etc". For one, this seems to be done strictly based on eyeballing and guessing a character's race. Dobson's article lists him as Caucasian when he totally does not look Caucasian to me. Another issue is that we simply don't know sometimes, and it does not take into account mixed-ethnicity people. What if Madison Li is actually half-white, half-Asian? What if Piper is intended to be Hispanic and not Caucasian? There's also characters who may dye/bleach their hair lighter to appear Caucasian when they may not be intended to be. I'm aware there's technical "race" data attached to characters, but the devs do not necessarily intend for this be canon. I'm pretty sure it's just for the sake of making an appearance template. I think we should eliminate all ethnicity-guessing unless the game actually factually states a character's race as canon, and just list "Human" instead. Skorch (talk) 14:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

A thanks back
Thanks for your message. I try to put out more of the positive vibe than the negative, the world already has too much of that. And I truly do appriciate this site and being able to lend a helping word when I can. If they're talking about what I know, which is primarily FO 4, lol. And I also appriciate the work you've been putting into this site as well. While I've only been here a relatively short time I get the sense that it's been a strugle so I'd just like to say I personally think you've been doing a great job. Stay strong and keep on keeping on. My names Mike by the way. Again, thanks. OctumFO4 (talk) 10:15, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Desmond Lockheart and the great game.
The great game is mentioned by Desmond in game, but it's part of his dialogue post Meeting of the Minds, which the wiki page for his dialogue doesn't include. Specifically;

Lone Wanderer: "What will you do now that he's dead?"

Desmond Lockheart: "Now that we're rid of Calvert, I'll be heading north to pursue my next rival. There are only a few of us left now. The great game goes on. Sort of a... what's a word you'd understand... microcosm? Yeah. It's a microcosm for the old world."

Aiden4017 (talk) 01:35, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Re: Suspiciously ticking pink backpack
Thank you, and while I know it is a tradition, I am still not convinced about this pink monstrosity. I am turning 40 next year, the time when a pink backpack would have looked cute on me is long gone...if there even was a time like that. sigh I really hope someone is running for admin next year. Anyhow, thanks for the quick forum closure, and for updating my staff role. I wish you and your loved ones Happy Holidays. –Findabair The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful. 13:37, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Talkpages
I was working to empty the unusedfiles (I think Fandom solved it now), and that one came along. I thought you missed that the image was still used so to make it really used I stored in on a talkpage. We have another like that in that unused files: File:FOWW Notable Settlements section.png. What do you want to do with files like that then as an alternative to remove them from UnusedFiles? Another thing, I don't agree with moving Fallout 3 posters to Poster (Fallout 3). That page is an overview with all kinds of posters, and not a workshop object page (where you can create an object named poster). Workshop object/craft pages get the name Poster (Fallout xx). Jspoel  18:00, 25 December 2021 (UTC)