User talk:Kdarrow

Location edits
All your edits are fantastic, thank you for taking the time to fix up all the real-world info on those location pages. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 06:22, November 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * Impressive, your work and visiting the notable FNV locations! You will be our best source for the real world references, I believe. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:21, November 12, 2019 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. It really shows your dedication to it! I remember back in the day, around 2011, someone else did more or less the same and posted it in the blog. Not as extensive as you though, just the area in and directly around New Vegas. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:31, November 12, 2019 (UTC)

Mountain Springs
That's ok. You would have to click on the triangle next to Mount Bell Springs's Edit button, choose Rename and then you would move the history of the page with it. Jspoel  20:55, February 11, 2020 (UTC)
 * On Devil Peak you mean? That's good to hear. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 23:51, February 11, 2020 (UTC)

Regarding your Vault 11 and Boulder City edits
Hello, I am commenting here today to raise a complaint on the editorial style in which you posses and have utilized to edit the pages described upon in the titular articles. I disagree with the reasoning of the Boulder City real world background information simply being described to as "superfluous", and the changing of wording to be increasingly "clarified" in the Vault 11 and Boulder City articles. To put it simply, to one such as myself, it seems as though it is being simplified for little to no reason rather than sheer removal. Whilst my editing style prefers the addition of information to articles, I am usually not opposed to the removal of information so long as it is appropriate, and improves the article rather than acting as a detriment to it. However, as with the reason I am contacting you here now, that is not the case in these several instances. For example, the removal of the limestone supply quotation and second real life paragraph on the Boulder City page removed key elements to the town's background and present state. The Vault 11 removal of the second section and editing out key events in exchange for simplistic paraphrases and minor informative sentence structure also serve as a detriment rather than an improvement. While I urge you not to see this as a berating of your distinctive edits, which adhere to wiki policy in very skillful ways, I also would like you to go about them in a more acceptable manner in the future. Sincerely, JCB2077 (talk) 22:37, February 11, 2020 (UTC)
 * I read and appreciate your comments regarding the editing style I use. Even feedback that is negative is important to me, so I can improve and in turn, improve the work I am doing on the location entries. I want to assure you that I spend a great deal of time thinking about the best way to convey information, writing and re-writing, researching, and working diligently to strike a balance between was is required and what can be trimmed for clarity. I do truly care about the integrity of my work and the impact it has on the improvement of the collective information. That being said, I can and will admit that I err on the side of removal, which upon reading your comments, is something I realize I need to change. Sometimes I struggle with what information coming from "the real world" is necessary to include for "in-game", especially in cases where I can not find evidence to suggest they were one and the same. Please accept my apologies. You will see my work in the future reflect a more restrained approach, and I appreciate you calling my attention to the need for me to do so. - Kdarrow (talk) 23:57, February 11, 2020 (UTC)

Character article layout and notes sections
Hiya, just wanted to let you know about the wiki's Article layout guideline if you haven't checked it out already. In general we like to try and keep our Notes sections as non-existent small as possible, so just looking for example at your edits to Ricky, changing "Other interactions" to "Notes" is not ideal. Also the sentence describing Ricky's role in the quest should stay in that section. However, you're right that the interactions needed to be cleaned up a little, so I've done a bit of that. :)

Hopefully s'all clear (as mud, I'm sure) but always feel free to hit me up on my talkpage if you have any questions. Happy editing! --L84tea Would you like a cup of tea? 09:38, February 18, 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah the Article Layout policy docs helped me out a lot when I first started and even now I still refer to them really frequently because honestly who can remember where the Notes and Bugs sections go in relation to each other. Not I, that's for sure. xD --L84tea Tea kettle.png you like a cup of tea? 12:43, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

Hello
Me interesting read your edits, thanks you. But here HUD (in the center, under the key).--ExplorerSmaily (talk) 10:16, February 20, 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh gosh, you are right. Sorry about that. I fixed it. And thank you for your kind words! -Kdarrow (talk) 18:00, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Maps
Hi Kate. First of all, thanks for your work here. I have a slight remark on the images you added here today. Most of the images are good of quality, some are less of quality, like Skill magazine suite 300.jpg. Set your screen settings to the highest resolution if you can and might as well make it 1920 by 1080. I replaced most of your map markers. You should leave out the square marker and clear the "fog of war" before you make a screenshot (done so on the Aerotech Office Park page). Also set your gamehour to 0, midnight, then you will have the best contrast. We don't need local maps of very small locations, like Cassidy Caravans wreckage or Grub n' Gulp rest stop. It doesn't really add to the page in my opinion. Only local maps of larger locations, like Camp Searchlight, Nipton of Goodsprings are good to have. Jspoel  18:02, February 21, 2020 (UTC)
 * Greetings! Good to hear from you, and thank you. These tips are very helpful, I appreciate your taking time to explain it to me clearly. I have removed the smaller locations from my "to-do" list and will use these techniques in future photos. Thank you again! -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 19:30, February 21, 2020 (UTC))

Fire axe
You're right, it's on there. Maybe it's been put there in the beginning stages of the game, not knowing yet how many you can find in the game, not sure. I've removed the axe now. Jspoel  18:01, February 24, 2020 (UTC)

Vault Academy
I believe it's still being worked on Leon, but I don't think there's a joining for learning but more of just participating and just reaching out to veterans whenever you can. Probably not the most helpful lol, but I think how you've been reaching out on discord and using talk pages is the general way of teaching from Vault Academy. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 03:52, February 27, 2020 (UTC)

Linking
Links that are formatted text using a " | " should not have characters appended to the closing brackets. As an example, the correct format would be radscorpions, not radscorpions. Please stop changing these on the pages. Great Mara (talk) 00:47, February 28, 2020 (UTC)
 * I will do so, thank you for letting me know! -Kdarrow (talk) 02:46, February 28, 2020 (UTC)

Patroller rights
Kate, are you interested in becoming patroller? This will give you rollback rights (one click revert) and patroller rights (makes the exclamation mark go away for your edits in recent changes). And it's a necessary step to have the possibility to become admin later on down the road. If you want them let me know, ok? Jspoel  16:57, March 6, 2020 (UTC)
 * I just gave you the rights. You will now see [Rollback] at the end of the line in a recent changes edit. If you click on it, the edit will be reverted to its previous state (for a bad edit or vandalism). Before you had your rights, a red exclamation mark appeared at the beginning of your recent changes edit; now it's gone. It's giving you more trust from the community, and means your edits dont need to be patrolled by others anymore. About responsibilities, just keep doing here what you do best, in your own time, it's going great already. Perhaps you'd even want to become admin later on, you have the qualities. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 17:19, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

Rock-It Launcher
I made a mistake with the Rock-It Launcher and its ammunition, you can leave those links separate, Rock-It Launcher and Rock-It Launcher ammunition. That way you have two links each going to different pages. Jspoel  21:05, March 6, 2020 (UTC)

Among the Stars
Removing these quest summaries on location pages, like you just did on Vault-Tec: Among the Stars, where did you get the idea to do that? Guidelines or from Discord advice? I know guidelines say list them, but I think just a little summary of what role the location plays in the quest can't hurt. So I'd say leave them be. Jspoel  21:47, March 20, 2020 (UTC)
 * I thought as much you got the idea from the guidelines. But you can leave them as they are. Maybe you can backtrack a bit to see where you removed it. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 21:58, March 20, 2020 (UTC)
 * I made a bit of a start now, but I know there are a good deal more location pages where this has happened in the past days, so your help is welcome. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 22:03, March 20, 2020 (UTC)

Player character
Try to find alternatives for player character if you can. Too many "player character" in one sentence breaks the flow of it. Jspoel  20:50, March 28, 2020 (UTC)

DeSoto
I think you're right. I created a page for the senator now. You can update the two pages, ok? Senator's page is DeSoto. Jspoel  18:43, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

About
I'll take a look at it, maybe redirect it to Tagaziel for a bit of a rewrite. Thanks for letting me know. Jspoel  16:12, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Book titles
I wouldn't italicize the issue number of a book or magazine. The number isn't part of the title. I think anyway. Jspoel  18:12, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Re: New User Network
Hi Kate! The New User Network is still a thing... kind of? I've been very inactive lately. But I'll see what I can do.

Leaving that aside for a second, your edits seem to be of good quality (judging by the fact that Jspoel gave you patroller rights) and you have plenty of them. Are there specific things you'd like to learn? Images, categories, templates? What kind of mentoring would you prefer: hands-on mentoring with regular contact, or more that you have a place where you can ask questions on how things work, or even something else? Depending on your needs I can mentor you myself, find a suitable mentor, or maybe you don't need a mentor but something else like a good place to ask questions at.

- FDekker talk 15:50, April 2, 2020 (UTC)

Hi
Hello there! How is Couriersix doing so far overall? On another note On a scale that goes from 0 up to 10(0 being nothing of value lost, and 10 being immense disappointment), how much of a missed opportunity was it when Bethesda decided to go and scrap the faction system from Fallout 3 during its development? For me, its a 7. Speccyemerald (talk) 23:18, April 2, 2020 (UTC)Speccyemerald
 * Hello there! I am doing quite well out here in the Mojave Wasteland. Today I was enjoying some fresh air in Jacobstown. When it comes to your question, I am not sure. I have not played much Fallout 3, but I will give it some thought and let you know if I do! Happy trails! -(Kdarrow (talk) 05:02, April 4, 2020 (UTC))

Reference Check
I saw what you did for the Marine Corps page because I couldn't get the link to properly load right. Still, thanks for the assist, Kdarrow.

Scout Trooper 164 (talk) 16:55, April 10, 2020 (UTC)

Regions
The region categories need to stay, can you backtrack your edits for this? Also, if a note is very short, like just with The Sludge Works, just leave the bullet. It doesn't look good without it. Jspoel  19:57, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Clara Song
I restored Clara Song's link in RobCo Research Center. I know the guidelines says not too many links, but here there's a section between, and people may go straight to the notable loot section and not have the link. Consider in each case what is best. Is not a problem to have two links if there's some decent room between. Jspoel  20:55, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

Your blog
Kate, your blogs are becoming a bit a regular returning happening on our wiki, so I was thinking of giving it a bit more exposure, so more people see it and read it. If you want, you can add the Category:Community news to it, at the bottom of the page. Then it will get a place on our front page, in the Community news section! Jspoel  23:08, April 20, 2020 (UTC)

From Dusk till Dawn
Can you wait with the Dusk changes? Gotta discuss this first with Branebriar. Jspoel  15:44, April 23, 2020 (UTC)

Bannister crater
Have been there in-game? The truck is turned over, it was normal screenshot, bit from topdown using tcl. Jspoel  09:55, April 27, 2020 (UTC)

Recent referencing guideline page update
Hello. I was wondering if you could help with the update to the referencing guidelines page that I am working on.

User:Ant2242/Referencing guidelines

--Ant2242 (talk) 05:35, April 29, 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello! I am happy to help out with the guideline. I gave it a cursory glance and it is exceptional, thank you for all your hard work. Please let me know how I can help or what you would have me do. -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 05:51, April 29, 2020 (UTC))


 * Spelling, grammar, general Manual of Style mistakes, anything you think that needs to be clarified or added... Your welcome, although I have to note I didn't write this alone. :) --Ant2242 (talk) 05:56, April 29, 2020 (UTC)


 * Of course, credit where credit is due! You are a good teammate. I am happy to go through it and throw in my two cents. Thanks for including me! -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 06:01, April 29, 2020 (UTC))

Should the dialogue file be named "Charater name's dialouge (Fallout X)" or left as a direct technical link "CHARATLOC.txt"? Originally I was thinking that this should be more technical. That said, when the guidelines were written (pre-Creation Engine) all the GECK ID dialogue files were merged into a single page, whos tables were broken up by headers.

Also do you think we should add both a FO4/76 and keep the FNVOWB NPC conversation to the page?

--Ant2242 (talk) 01:18, April 30, 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello! Good questions. I am of the opinion that we should use the technical link and then a descriptor such as (FortCaesar.txt|Caesar's dialogue). This is two-fold, as it heads directly to the source file while being easy to understand. This may work to the benefit of referencing characters such as Oliver Swanick, whose dialogue file is named Nipton Survivor.


 * For the guide, if our intended audience is editors, the first example shown should be a simple one they can follow as a template. It is a good idea to show examples at the end of what differences (tooltips, brackets and the like) to expect for different games. -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 15:13, April 30, 2020 (UTC))


 * Sounds good to me. Do you understand anything about what's going on with the last section? I copy-pasted what was told to me to do as an archiving measure but I seem to not be grasping what that new screen is after following the instructions.--Ant2242 (talk) 15:50, April 30, 2020 (UTC)

Terminals
Hello. I was wondering if the linking section of the terminal entries in the policy is gramatically correct. Example --Ant2242 (talk) 01:42, May 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is the format I use. I use a semicolon and then a comma. Go us!

-Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 02:03, May 2, 2020 (UTC))

Another guidelines page
Hello again, I was working on another guidelines page. I would love your imput...

GECK and Creation Engine terminal entries page guidelines

--Ant2242 (talk) 10:08, May 3, 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for thinking to include me! I will take a look and provide any helpful tips I think of!. -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 20:21, May 3, 2020 (UTC))

TVA
Hello!

I know you've expressed an interesting in being paired up with a mentor, and The Vault Academy is now beginning to reach out to help form these partnerships. I went ahead and added your name to the appropriate table, we just need for you to fill out what all programs you're interested in.

Once you do that, you may either choose one of the mentors you're interested in and shoot them a message, or we'll help get you paired up instead - your choice. Thanks for reading, and I'll be looking forward to seeing you get involved!  寧靜 04:15, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Mentorship Program
Goodmorning!

Looks like Dekker is going to be your first mentor - I figured he'd be the best tailored fit for you, as he's willing to get you started on the Technical Editing program, which will be important to go ahead and cover since I know you're shooting for the Content Moderator position at some point later down the road.

I've already squared things away with him, so he should be reaching out to you soon. The first few days together will be used to get used to each other and settle into a comfortable routine, and within a couple of days, I'll be sending a manual that'll cover some milestones TVA would like to see you meet by the end of the program.

But like I told Dekker, if you two feel confident enough, the manual is just there to help, and you two are 100% free to go down your own path should that be chosen. In the meantime, I hope you enjoy your mentorship, and please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any questions!

~Happy editing

P.S. I also told Dekker that at some point, I'd like to get you settled into temporary CoMod rights, just to get a feel of what the position will be like. Once you two feel as if you're ready, we'll see about getting the ball rolling on that front.  寧靜 11:58, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

edit summaries
Isn't that pretty much what i did? If you're talking about the Tour of Duty page i said that it needed to be written more clearly and the platform specified?--Branebriar1930 (talk) 14:29, May 6, 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello! The Tour of Duty page was perfect. I was referring to the Unwashed Villagers page. I should have specified, sorry about that. I must need more coffee :) -Kate (Kdarrow (talk) 14:32, May 6, 2020 (UTC))

Yeah you are right about that. I could have just said 'grammar.' Leon also talking to me about that summary.--Branebriar1930 (talk) 14:36, May 6, 2020 (UTC)

Power armor pics
Thank you! I see, this is a great team keep an eye on this wiki, so I'm happy to make a small contribution to its improvement.--SonikSeven (talk) 16:36, May 7, 2020 (UTC)

Congo bts
Hey i removed the behind the scenes section about how the Congo was a real country as it seems rather strange to think otherwise. I mean you wouldn't need to tell people that in the fallout universe, the USA or Canada are based on real world countries?

I'm also not so sure about the flag considering that the Congo in IRL only adopted that flag after the fallout divergence so you may be presuming that it remained the same in the fallout universe. Just a thought though.--Branebriar1930 (talk) 00:14, May 10, 2020 (UTC)