User talk:Kdarrow

Hi, it's me, Kate! I am glad you are here. Please leave me a note. Happy trails!

- kdarrow   take her for a spin!

Vault Academy Apprenticeship
Hey Kdarrow, can you mentor me on the Vault Academy? - D-Class Personnel, 10:08, Thursday, January 21, 2021 (EST)
 * Sure, I sent you a message with all the important details. Hooray! - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 21:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Silly badges...
Hey there,

I just needed a shady reason to make one more edit, since according to those silly badges, this is my five thousandth edit.

So I just wanted to drop by and say thanks for all you taught me and for totally not taking advantage of a helpless mentee.

Oh, and no present frome me this time, since something tells me that you already have gotten the best one.😏

--Findabair The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful. 20:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I wonder if I can roll my eyes any harder than I am now. But for real, good job, 5k is no small feat. I am proud of you and grateful for you. And to have the 5k edit here? Well you know how much I adore the gesture. - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 21:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Went to bed before I got your message
Turned in 2-1 and 2-2 quiz. - D-Class Personnel, 09:54, Thursday, January 22, 2021 (EST)
 * Great I will check them out! You are so quick! - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 21:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

DOB
Sent the message to me not Dave. Or were you meaning to send it to both of us? Branebriar1930 (talk) 22:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Dod
That's what date of death is for tho, just noting when a quest calls for a character's death (this should be marked as determinant if its not required). I do agree death shouldn't be marked just because a character can be killed, only when content in the game can lead to a character's death. Like how a character's location can change after the completion of a quest. I'm not against a forum tho. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 22:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, can you wait for a consensus to be reached before reverting everything? It's p counter productive if the agreement was for edits to stay and now the edits have to be redone. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 23:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Before any changes are made about adding date of deaths to characters, we need to make a forum asking for the input of everyone. It is a significant change. Let me know if you want me to take point on it, I am happy to help. - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 23:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Should clarify, I totally don't mean characters that we can literally see dead in game, those are aok. I mean those who may or may not die depending on player choice. I did not change any of those that you did. :) We will get it figured out together, just lemme know! - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 23:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Gender and machines
While machines don't actually have a gender, it's helpful to at least note when computer, like MODUS useing male vocals in-game and is referred to with male pronouns. This is also how wikipedia does it with its HAL 9000 article, where it acknowledges HAL doesn't actually have a gender, but uses a male voice/pronouns. Just so you know why I'm point male programming back in the MODUS article. Devastating DaveZIP ZAP RAP 06:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Admin review request
Hey there! I didn't want to get involved in an edit war situation, so I was wondering if you could do an impartial review on Carter's corpse and make a call on it? I've been seeing a lot of "dates of death" being added to various NPCs like this one. For the life of me, I cannot find any in-game dates to support them. They feel too speculative to me, but I will defer to your good judgment if I'm wrong on this. Thank you!


 * Heya! I am always happy to help and of course would be willing to review this. Let me take a look and I will let you know my thoughts after I dig into it a little bit more. I appreciate you coming to me for help, I am glad to do so anytime. Stay tuned! - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 10:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Van Buren
You're early on the Valentine's Day feelings! Concerning VB, I wouldn't make too much work on it, after all it's not a published game, I even cut Van Buren from the overviews. You can spend some time on it if you want, shaving the edges. Jspoel  16:47, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Covered bridge
Why did you italicize Fallout 76 on the Covered bridge (Fallout 76) page? Were's not using that other than on the overview pages, and not on normal article pages. Jspoel  17:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Reply
It's quite refreshing to see such optimism and gratitude, thank you. Though I did wonder, since it has been months since you replied.

Anyway, ignoring that, I thought of showing arrays, but this wiki does not support it. It might be worthwhile to start a thread to ask for this feature to be enabled, considering you could easily subsititute something like this (from X-02_power_armor page):

(right arm) (left arm) (right leg) (left leg) (helmet) into this (but with also using explode function):
 * formid     = (torso)


 * formid      = 807 // torso; 805 // right arm; 80a // left arm; 808 // right leg; 809 // left leg; 806 // helmet

Simply put, you could just make your syntax less bulky, and easier to read and write. Any piece of content that has some similarities between each other can be written through arrays.

Anyway, what I can do is to show those string functions. If you have a piece of data - a text string - in a template, you can just take pieces of it and use it on the rest of the infobox. Say you have an article that says "Person's fruit"; instead of writing each time that an apple belong to a person, you can just use

This just means that it removes anything after the first ' character and displays the rest. If you just want to display the word "fruit", you gotta use -1 (to reverse it):

Now if you want to compare a string before proceeding - using an #if: statement will not work because it only checks if it exists, it doesn't show its contents. However, #ifeq is something that does use that:

There's much more to learn, if you want to. ☢ Energy X ☣ 17:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Mabel Henderson
Kate, we keep the colored Tranquility Lane images. They may not be original game content but they're an exception. Jspoel  12:28, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Splitting perk pages
(Forwarding this from my message to Eckserah (as you're having this in your to do list).

I'm see many split templates on perk pages like Gun Fu to name one. If you're planning for that there needs to be community sensus in my opinion as it's affecting the wiki content to a great degree. Jspoel  21:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Re: 90k humblebrag
Congratz, you make it look easy enough and will get the "last" 10k in no time. As for the cheering, I will continue to be a staunch supporter of your efforts. --Findabair The benefit of the doubt is often doubtful. 04:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Crate pictures
Thanks for the photos, I will add them in the articles. I'm going to admit defeat here though, as I have been trying to figure out which of the three ids on the military shipping crate page is which variant with no success. I'll add them to each page, but if you want to merge them again and rewrite the military shipping crate page to list them as variants again, feel free to. Aiden4017 (talk) 10:03, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Quick photo edit question
I'm looking to add a photo to the Liz and/or General store (Broken Hills) page(s), but I'm not sure how to take/find an image of the small room map without the player character in it like the one already present on those pages. Do you know if there is a way to do it in-game or maybe through some game assets or something? Synthsolacer (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * i've discovered that my game may just be glitchy and so the added photo may not be necessary, but i'd still love to know how. thanks for asking Jspoelstra for me! Synthsolacer (talk) 06:31, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Annexiation of Canada
I saw some pictures along time ago, showing the process of the annexiation of canada, I dont know where they are now, but if so, can you send them to me in a file maybe, I see there deleted, and I would like to use them for 30 minute history of the fallout map over time.

Erroneous Edits
FYI, your changes to the pages https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/YCS/186?type=revision&diff=3410484&oldid=3329513 and https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Gauss_rifle_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)?type=revision&diff=3430498&oldid=3367918 to rename the baseid entries as formid have effectively removed that information from the pages because that entry on the table no longer displays. I'm not sure why that is, so I'll leave it to you to fix it up. 00:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * The base id paramater in the Infobox weapon gamebryo template just needs to be changed so the parameters match. Great Mara (talk) 23:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

RE: Template tweak
All taken care of! Just let me know if you need anything else! - Eckserah   Head Dataminer 00:34, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you kindly <3 - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 00:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

RE: Great job
Hello Kate, first sorry for my bad English kk We of pt (br) who thank her community, it is thanks to her that our pages are possible. I appreciate the care and we are at your disposal xD. Marks 17:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Timeline
We're adding the timelines for locations Kate, you shouldn't remove it. It's been custom to do that since I've been here. It once was in the guidelines I believe though I can't find it anymore. Jspoel  00:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Is this template really necessary? Seems to give more work than it's worth? Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 00:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Behind the scenes
Be careful with removing these behind the scenes notes. I'm not too pleased too see them go, they give a lot a flavor to the pages. Some should stay in my opinion. Jspoel  17:23, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think just widen your criteria when leaving or removing something. Lean a bit more towards leaving it I think, we already have a behind the scenes template which widens the spectrum. That leaves room for it not having to be hard evidence. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 18:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Editor of the Year
Holy moly! I don't know what to say! That's exceptional, Kate, a wonderful achievement. Congratulations! Means that out of all those millions of visitors/editors you have stood out most in 2020, you're the Chosen One so to speak in Fallout terms. Appears I've earned a small reward too :) Editor of the Month. Yay! I'll look into a blog post tomorrow. Jspoel  21:17, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Festus
No problem, I feel like a bit of a idiot now for overthinking it and not just looking at him. Aiden4017 (talk) 01:43, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Questions for ya!
Hey when you get the chance can you get in touch with me? Got some questions for you! Thanks a bunch - Eckserah   Head Dataminer 23:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure. - -kdarrow Pickman heart.png take her for a spin! 10:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Rockville
Please lock the Rockville page due to counter-productive edit warring. A user apparently doesn’t want to read the content rules and has the audacity to bark orders. Great Mara (talk) 17:26, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Workshop objects
Is it correct the term settlement object isn't used at all in Fallout 76? I see you replacing a lot of those pages with the workshop object term. So should all settlement object page become workshop object pages? I'm not familiar enough with the game myself to determine that. Jspoel  17:12, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
 * On another note, about the suffixes for update pages, I prefer to give them a name with the update suffix instead of the Fallout 76 suffix (and be put in the update category). We've done the same for all the add-ons from previous games, I'd like to see the same for the updates. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 17:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

NOTY 2020
Howdy! Congrats on being one the nominees for NOTY. Just like the discussions ping, I'm reaching out to let you know. If you want, you can say something to highlight why you feel you are the user of the year. Here are some examples other users have had in the past.

If and when you decide what you would like to say, copy it and send it to me. I'll give you a few easy options to reach me since not everyone is everywhere. You can leave a message on my talk page, you can @ me anywhere on the nuka discord, or you can @ me on the 2021 off-Topic thread. If you do not intend to write a message or if you want to decline the nomination, please let me know as well, so I'm not having to track someone down to squeeze an answer out of anyone. There's no deadline to reply, but I would appreciate it if it's sooner rather than later.

Thanks, The Dyre Wolf (talk) 04:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Super mutant pages
Can you hold your changes on the super mutant links? I'm not too pleased to have seen them being moved without consulting me. Jspoel  11:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Sentimental
I did celebrate it, with a blog, exactly 15 years on the day Fallout 1 was released, 30 september 2012. That was my 100,000th edit. As a gift from Fandom, I received Check User rights, I remember I was in chat celebrating when I got them from Sannse. I still have a present image on my userpage in the infobox, and I got a card from Fandom, it's also on my userpage. You'll have to decide yourself what you want to do with your 100k edit, you can think on it for a while still! Jspoel  20:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I did wonder where you were around the end of 2010, when Fallout: New Vegas was released. You would have had a field day if you could have been here with everything so close to you in real life. Did you know at the time this wiki existed? Probably not. I stumbled upon it by chance. About my 500k edit, don't know yet, still some time left. Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 17:16, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Getting so close!
You're almost there! Not much longer and you hit that big amazing milestone of 100k edits!

On another note I've got some questions I wanna ask you if you get the chance! Congrats and thanks a bunch!! - Eckserah   Head Dataminer 05:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

RE:Favor
Sure I can take a look. Or well I could if the page wasn't showing up as having not been filled in (looks like fandom broke it). My guess is that you have to add the link parameter to the file tag and make it blank so that it doesn't get surrounded by a p tag (paragraph tag). So like as an example. Let me know if that helps! - Eckserah   Head Dataminer 05:26, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

SOTD
Thanks hon bit of a slog to get to Day 365 what with everything that's happened but I got there. Thought I fucked up a day around the 360 mark but fortunately didn't mess it up this time lol (last time around I messed up around day 200). Hope you're doing well and congrats on your Gaming Editor of the Year award! <3 --L84tea Would you like a cup of tea? 07:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

"Not mentioned as a river"
I've went through some of your major removals of the site's content in recent days and I disagree with your line of thinking in several instances. Apart from what I pointed out to you in DMs, claiming that we can't have an article on the Yangtze river because it's not literally referred to as a river, despite the fact Richardson mentions fighting from the Yukon to the Yangtze, has no basis. Similarly, deleting Gaston Glock from the page on Austria strikes me as just removal for removal's sake. Tägäżïël 10:12, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox templates
Kate, can you give me an overview and purpose of the new infoboxes you've been creating lately (at least some by you), like Infobox apparel FO76, Infobox world object FO76 and Infobox vehicle creation, maybe more. I'm losing track what to use where and for what reason, for example the vehicle template doesn't differ much from the original. Why can't some of the templates merged so one can be used? I don't want a forest of infobox templates that are very much alike. Jspoel  20:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

RE:Frontier
Of course I'll take a look! And thank you :D I couldn't have gotten this far without having such a wonderful mentor! - Eckserah   Head Dataminer 00:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!
I know it's just standard wikia stuff, but thanks for the welcome on my talk page. NewhonImproved (talk) 10:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Aggressive deletions
I've reverted a number of your changes to the Vaults. You have not discussed these with anyone, nor have you or anyone else provided a decent rationale for their removal. Please discuss far-reaching changes like these in advance. Thank you. Tägäżïël 10:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Far reaching
In general, making decisions based on a casual chat on the Discord without any trace of said talk having occurred on the wiki. Talk pages exist for a specific purposes, especially before you embark on a string of casual deletions. I'm not telling you to consult every change, but if you're planning sweeping changes it pays to consult existing editors and people who have been here for a long time. Tägäżïël 10:13, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Project
It's a nice idea, you're well on your way, looks good to me! Can be used similar to how we do it with the dialogue files like you say. Merging the templates is fine too. The less similar templates the better. Jspoel  12:46, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Where do you find these message boxes? Do you remember them from playing the game or have you find them in the GECK? Jspoel [[file:Speech Jspoel.png|10px|link=User talk:Jspoelstra]] 13:20, 21 February 2021 (UTC)