Broken Steel bugs

Important
Before reporting any bugs, make sure when you install the DLC pack, that you also install the 1.5 patch. Without the patch it is possible that some models will not load (they will appear as red triangles) and the game will crash often.

PC version glitches
=Gameplay=

After blowing up the mobile platform and getting on the vertibird as instructed the player, Lyons members, and pilots are spawned slightly in the walls. The pilot states he'll land the bird to watch the fireworks, there is a short load, then player is stuck on the bird. This bug persists for me with patch 1.7 and no mods loaded.

After activating the purifier your character becomes stuck under the hospital bed unable to move and stuck without control, fix not found. This bug may have something to do with the completion of the Worst. Doctor. Ever quest.

To fix the forementioned bug above, it is advised to simply patch the game to 1.5. (confirmed)

If you have not completed The American Dream, you may freeze within 5 feet of Elder Lyons and be unable to talk or move. The quest does not continue, and Elder Lyons does not speak. Weapons cannot be drawn upon entrance to laboratory.





To fix this, tell Sentinel Lyons that you aren't ready. Go out to the courtyard, and come back in to say that you are ready (unconfirmed).

Attempting to gain the laser pistol next to the mini nuke at the end of the Presidential Metro results in the player becoming stuck and unable to get out without loading to the most recent save. (unconfirmed)

Reported incidents of an "invisible barrier" appearing any certain points i.e. the utility door up the earth mount and the door to Tesla coil leaving players trapped if they jumped in, this bug is on the Xbox 360 version, only one barrier appears to have dodgy coding and blocks important in-game places (Xbox 360)

After getting the Puppies! perk, there is a reported incident of no longer being able to hire any follower other than Dogmeat's Puppy, even if the puppy is dead or outside Vault 101. Someone has created a mod fix for users of the PC version: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6208.

If the player kills Dogmeat's Puppy, even accidentally, the puppies may stop respawning and the player still will not be able to add any other followers.

After Sarah's "So much for celebrating" dialogue if Fawkes is told to enter the code, his dialogues are not heard, and when he enters the room, he just stands at a place until there is the explosion. Also when the player himself enters the code, he wakes up below the bed and hence unable to get up. (PC, Xbox 360)

After speaking to Elder Lyons about the events of the past two weeks, he directs you to Scribe Rothchild. After asking Rothchild for an update on the situation, he tells you to follow him to the map, but he fails to lead you there, instead carrying on with his daily routine. Similar to Locating Vault 87 Glitch





Fix for this issue available at Nexus under a file named Rothfix.



Another way to fix this is talking to Rothchild repeatedly (pushing E nonstop), and pushing him towards the map (i.e walking into him), then enter console and type enableplayercontrols and follow him 'till he finishes talking. Enter conversation and hey presto the game goes on! (Note this only works if you're both in the Citadel Labratory).

Similar to the above bug, once Broken Steel is completed with the 'good' ending and your Vertibird lands back in the Citadel courtyard for Lyons' speech, the speech never occurs. Your character is locked into the 'listening' pose but Lyons, Rothchild, and Sarah simply walk off and continue their daily routine leaving you stuck there. This makes the good ending impossible to finish, effectively defaulting you to blowing up the Citadel, as doing so does not involve a speech at the end. (PC)





Fix for this issue: After the game loads the Citadel and you are stuck at this screen, open the console via the tilde "~" key and type "enableplayercontrols". This should give you control over your character, and then you can run to Elder Lyons and talk to him, thus completing the quest.

Paladin Tristan does not appear at quest marker for "death from above"





fix - type in the console prid xx005689 (enter) next type enable (enter) he should appear walking at you from the broken truck.

Game crashes while trying to exit the purifier after talking to Scribe Bigsley. Game then crashes whenever player tries to zone to the Purifier thereafter, even from previous saved games.

When level 20 reached the skill or perk screen never show up and the player stays at level 19 while his exp. Keeps rising past the max.

In Broken Steel, after the 2 weeks later cut scene your character gets stuck unable to move.

fix - save the game while stuck, then load it. It should make Elder Lyons pop up in front of you. Then, open up the console and type in EnablePlayerControls. That should give you control of your character again and you should be able to talk to ;yons and progress.

During the quest Shock Value, upon entering Old Olney, the game freezes leaving no other choice but to reboot the computer.

Despite having finished the main quest for the add-on, when returning to Jefferson Memorial the water is not flowing from the pipes. Also, Liberty Prime is still there killing randomly spawning Enclave soldiers and Sentry Bots. Also Jefferson Memorial no longer has a map marker, the only way to get there is via foot.

After the 2 weeks cut scene any attempt to hack the medical computer freezes the game on Windows 7.

When a NPC drinks FEV infected water (in combat, usually), you'll get the message "Continued consumption of FEV laced water will be fatal" as if you had drunk it yourself.

After the, "Two Weeks Later" cutscene, you are given full control of the player at the Citadel, and Elder Lyons is nowhere to be found. On the Pip-Boy it says that "Take it Back!" and "Project Impurity" are not completed. Speaking to Elder Lyons by finding him doesn't work. A fix that worked for me was to open the console and then type:

player.placeatme 000156E4 This allowed Elder Lyons' script to be reset, and it completed "Take it Back!" and "Project Impurity" as well as giving me "Death From Above".

Minor

 * GNR may begin playing information about the completed Project Purity, discussing plot details ahead of time. (confirmed PS3, Xbox 360, PC)
 * Liberty Prime may not hit the wall to the relay station, and the wall may just fall apart without any motion from Prime a few seconds later. (unconfirmed)
 * Follower could not leave the room that the player appears in after Take It Back! Pushing the follower through the open doorway fixes the problem. (unconfirmed)
 * Some followers do not appear beside your bed when you wake up after completing take it back. To repair this you can exit the area, re-enter and they will be waiting beside your hospital bed in the citadel. (Confirmed PC)
 * Star Paladin Cross refuses to follow you when she appears beside your hospital bed in the citadel after you've completed take it back. After telling her to follow you she stays put, yet her dialogue options change as if she was following you. The only way to get around this bug in the console versions is to fire and re-hire her. That will make her follow you again, but this problem will resurface any time you tell her to wait in the future. (confirmed Xbox 360, PS3). For the PC version, you can permanently fix this problem with the GECK. See the Discussion page for a step-by-step walkthrough of how to fix this bug by using the GECK. (confirmed PC)
 * Paladin Bael, the unnamed boss paladin (RefID=b8759) and the Sentry Bot (RefID=71730) in front of the Citadel main gate disappear after Take It Back! quest is completed. (Xbox 360 & PC versions) This can be fixed on the PC through the console. Raider will spawn when fast traveling to citadel and attack you and continue to respawn every three days. (PC)
 * The game freezes upon reaching level 21, distributing skill points and picking a perk. Possible freeze occurring at lower levels on PC.
 * After installation of both the official 1.5 Patch and the Broken Steel DLC, the radio stations disappear from the radio menu and will not play on any of the radios in the Wasteland.
 * Dogmeat dialog has 'Goodbye, Dogmeat' instead of 'Let s go, Dogmeat'.
 * Holy Water Pamphlet: If removed from the player's Megaton house, the water pamphlet will be restored upon saving and loading. This also occurs on other buildings where the Holy Water Pamphlet is placed (Xbox 360 and PC).
 * After finishing Death From Above, Liberty Prime's head will appear both outside the Satellite Relay Station and inside Citadel Lab.
 * When fast traveling to Megaton with a mind controlled deathclaw it will appear alongside you and will attempt to kill the inhabitants (and will most likely succeed). (PC)
 * Feral Ghoul Reavers' upper bodies may start spinning around with such speed that they cannot be manually targeted, while lower body behaves and moves normally. Most likely related to the glitch that they cannot be damaged. (PC, 1.5)
 * Aqua Pura crates appear in front of Evergreen Mills, even though the Purifier hadn't been activated yet.
 * GNR just repeats the different introduction to the news. (confirmed)
 * After Talking to Scribe Rothchild in the Citadel Lab, The Point Marker will appear in the middle of the left hall of the A-Ring, and there is no sight of Paladin Tristan (confirmed PC)
 * When the Player goes to the Rockland Car Tunnel, the outside gate will be key locked, and there is no sight of Paladin Tristan or The Brotherhood of Steel, instead, there are 2 Giant Radscorpions wandering around (confirmed PC)
 * When the player has the Pip-Boy set to 'World Map', closes, and opens it again, when placing your mouse on a button (ex. 'Data'), there will be a 'ck' in the upper-corner of the map screen. When you move the map via the mouse, and hover over a button again, the 'ck' will not appear.

PlayStation 3 version glitches

 * Broken Steel has suddenly made the frame rate very sloppy.
 * Fawkes randomly disappears while wandering the wasteland (after completing all main quests, no quest was active at the time), there was no message saying "Fawkes has died!", and he cannot be found at The Underworld, Vault 101, Megaton, The Citadel or Project Purity. Reloading the game save does not appear to solve the problem. If Fawkes was with you when you activated the purifier, he should appear next to Lyons when you wake up.
 * This is probably no glitch. If you implanted the FEV virus it would have killed Fawkes.
 * Once installed broken steel DLC water in the basin remains irradiated.
 * When playing through the Satellite Relay Station in "Death From Above" Cross and the rest of the BoS members disappear. When in combat their voices can be heard but they do not aid in combat and are nowhere to be found. Fast traveling recovered Cross, and Paladin Tristan appeared back at the Citadel after completion of "Death from Above".
 * Cannot complete 'Death From Above' the BoS guys and Fawkes stop following half way through the satellite relay station, so need to continue alone. After download data and continue to exit to capitol wasteland, game load screen appears, but then just goes black, still with the overlay changing and the timer symbol just cycling around, but does not load. Have to Reboot system to continue, but this occurs everytime so cannot exit the door.
 * The Rockland Car Tunnel icon doesn't appear on the world map.
 * Once you reach level 21 the game may freeze and you are forced to load the last save, but will crash once again.
 * As the player levels throughout the extra ten levels their karma title will not change.
 * In the trophies section, the images for Messiah and True Mortal are switched.
 * Outside Rivet City there should be two water caravan drivers under a tent, next to them are two brahmins, if either of the bramin die your character will die with them for no reason at all.
 * In trying to get to Wilhem's Warf, the game freezes in the area just beyond the Anchorage War Memorial bridge, distance from Wilhem's Warf to character at freeze often varies.

Gameplay

 * WARNING- Game may not show any form of glitches until players reaches Adam's air base. The worst glitch to been shown causes players to freeze at the tower or the area around it. This glitch will strand your character at your last save spot, as in if you try to move either by fast travel or simply walking from where you are after you reload will cause the game to freeze. This means especially to those who has spend many hours on their same character will not be able to continue using that character until the glitch is removed or you start completely over and aviod the main quest line leading to adam's air base.


 * Upon completing the Broken Steel DLC, when one goes to start through the quest "The Amazing Aqua Cura", Fawkes may be dead and stuck under the table that holds the cash register.
 * After downloading BS, Pitt, OP A, 1.5 patch, and load of a save game will not allow travel to the southwestern portion of the map. Game either freezes while fast travel loading, loads forever, or if you try to run there, will freeze when nearing the southwestern portion of the map. Makes BS unusable.
 * In order to fix this, you need to clear the cache on your HDD. According to Bethesda, you go to the settings tab, then select memory, then press y for device options. Next, you press X, X, LB, RB, X, X. It will ask you if you want to perform maintenance. Select yes and let it do its thing. When you start the game, it will have cleared the old patches and re-download the latest.
 * When you beat the final chapter, the "2 weeks later" never appears, and the "Settings" menu, and downloads area, become "sticky" and glitchy.
 * During The American Dream quest as you approach Elder Lyons, you freeze in place and are stuck there unless you load up a previous save. You cannot draw your weapons, talk to Elder Lyons, move, activate V.A.T.S, or talk to anyone who passes by you.


 * Broken Steel has a bug on the Xbox 360 version, stopping players from activating Project Purity. Sarah Lyons becomes stuck on dialogue (when you choose not to kill col. Autumn) and does not initiate the dialogue choice of who should activate the purifier. Alternatively, if you do, she simply states "Let's make sure the control is secure before we do anything else," and will not continue. However, it is still possible to level up to level 30 and the improved enemies can still be found throughout the Wasteland.
 * After getting the Puppies! perk, there is a reported incident of no longer being able to hire any follower other than Dogmeat's Puppy, even if the puppy is dead or outside Vault 101.
 * One possible work around is if fawkes is an avaible party member then take dogmeat to the Museum of History and stand near to Fawkes. Attack dogmeat till he attacks you, let fawkes kill him off and than fawkes will follow you. Than if you want to switch followers take Fawkes to their location and fire him in front of the follower, than hire the new one. This has been tested with both Cross and Charon.
 * After Broken Steel update, during Those! quest while in Marigold Station, player can become permanently stuck in VATS while action continues very slowly in background.
 * Clover vanished after the events of Take it Back!, much later in the Broken Steel quest line a message said she returned to Paradise Falls, but cannot be re-hired.
 * Upon completing Who Dares Wins, if no content from Operation Anchorage DLC is being carried on the player's person, Aiding the Outcasts may become a marked mission once again, and all Operation Anchorage DLC ingame item content will disappear. This forces you to redo all the missions of Operation Anchorage.
 * Once you reach the level "21" the game will freeze and you are forced to load the last save, but will crash once again.
 * If you haven't finished Operation Anchorage before installing Broken Steel, you will be unable to access the Armory at the end of the quest or complete the quest. After using the terminal next to the Armory door, the door will still be listed as locked and will not open.
 * After level up from 20 to 21 new chosen perk and skills are not saved while level does go up to 21.
 * An exploit for unlimited BoS armor, holotags, Enclave armor, and weapons (including the occasional BoS Paladin equipped with a Tesla Cannon) during the initial assault on Adams AFB. Just before you cross onto the runway after the deathclaw cages, BoS and Enclave troops are seen battling behind the blue pulse repulsion field. You can then cross onto the runway and either kill or wait for the Enclave to kill the BoS troops to collect their items. However, the fallen bodies disappear after about 10 seconds. The troops will respawn when you cross through the wrecked hangar back towards the deathclaw cages. This can be repeated to your heart's desire.
 * An exploit for unlimited BoS armor, holotags, Enclave armor, and weapons (including the occasional BoS Paladin equipped with a Tesla Cannon) during the initial assault on Adams AFB. Just before you cross onto the runway after the deathclaw cages, BoS and Enclave troops are seen battling behind the blue pulse repulsion field. You can then cross onto the runway and either kill or wait for the Enclave to kill the BoS troops to collect their items. However, the fallen bodies disappear after about 10 seconds. The troops will respawn when you cross through the wrecked hangar back towards the deathclaw cages. This can be repeated to your heart's desire.


 * After installation of Broken Steel Scribe Rothchild disappears after giving him a few Cameras.
 * After installation of Broken Steel unable to give Scribe Jameson Holotags.
 * When entering the FEV virus into the chemical filteration unit and finishing the game, Broken Steel fails to load.
 * After completing the quest the water will still give off radiation
 * After completing The Amazing Aqua Cura quest (and if the customers killed Griffon), his body will have a leveled amount of caps on him. In later levels, he will have 600, and in levels around the late 10s, he'll have around 200. But, after a day or so (ingame), the caps will reappear in his inventory. This glitch is very helpful, and it's recommended to do it every time you go in the Museum of History.
 * After reaching level 18, you are not able to choose any of the other perks from level 18 and forward.
 * Sometimes when an enemy is killed (particularly Hellfire Soilders) they may fly around at high speed in the air above or around the player in a ball shape while their limbs strech to impossible lengths. This makes stealing from their inventories almost impossible however it has no futher effect on gameplay

Minor glitches

 * Adams Air Force Base map glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXtFfZDqD3w), walk outside the map on Xbox 360
 * GNR may begin playing information about the completed Project Purity, discussing plot details ahead of time.
 * Unable to save games in Fallout 3 after Broken Steel has been downloaded (Xbox 360 version). Doing so creates "Disc is Unreadable" error. Autosave still works. After getting the "Unreadable" error, cannot get to the loading screen to load another saved point. (This sounds like a faulty disc or console rather than a problem with the game)
 * Enclave mind-controlled deathclaws attack PC even if the player has the deathclaw mind control device on them.
 * Paladin Bael, the unnamed boss paladin and the Sentry Bot in front of the Citadel main gate disappear after Take It Back! quest is completed.
 * Upon entering Craterside Supply; Billy Creel, Harden Simms, Moira Brown and the Mercenary all fell through the floor. Upon moving in any direction, your character will fall through the floor.
 * The Player cannot leave the Tenpenny Tower penthouse without the game locking up.
 * The Holy Water Pamphlet can respawn after being taken down from any door it is normally found on after saving and loading.
 * Aqua Pura crates were in front Evergreen Mills, even though the purifier hadn't been activated yet - James hadn't even been rescued from Tranquility Lane.
 * Upon entering the purifier airlock at the end of Take it back, followers going in with the player in may vanish permanently after the "Two weeks later" cutscene.
 * All creature companions (Sergeant RL-3, Fawkes, and Dogmeat) are nearly invincible when first hired. They will still be the same if hired BEFORE downloading Broken Steel however.
 * After completing the final quest and talking to Elder Lyons about giving him supplies to rebuild Prime, he vanishes and is nowhere to be seen. Rothchild may vanish the same way.
 * Liberty Prime's head can be found where it landed in front of the Enclave satellite upload station and also in the Citadel Laboratory.
 * If you get the Puppies! perk, you may be unable to recruit any followers, saying you may only have one follower at a time. This may be because the puppy is considered a follower, instead of whatever you would call Dogmeat, because he can come with you no matter how many followers you have. This glitch may occur even if the puppy is still waiting at Vault 101.
 * A way to fix this is to take the puppy to the follower you want, kill the puppy, and immediately talk to the follower before you get the message that the puppy is at the vault. Note: if you are trying to get Star Paladin Cross or Fawkes, make sure you have high karma before attempting this, because you will lose karma for killing the puppy, making it possible to have to gain more karma, kill the puppy, then recruit the follower.